How Much Do You Think the Vatican Paid That Nun to Pretend to Have Had Parkinson’s Disease?
Thursday, August 25th, 2011 at
11:33 am
A question from Dogstar Lone Crusader of the Clone Apocalypse: How much do you think the Vatican paid that nun to pretend to have had Parkinson’s disease?
Just so that they could canonise John-Paul II.
Best answer:
Answer by The Resurrectionist
Probably not much. Plenty of religious nuts are more than willing to lie simply to try justify their own faith.
What do you think? Leave you answer below!
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Unlike science that tests, evaluates, insists on repeatability and peer revue it seems that the catholic church sets out to make someone a saint and just one little claim is enough!
And they wonder why christianity is becoming a laughingstock!
Obedient little drone wasn’t she? “Mother Teresa” was another.
The Novus Ordo church is not the Roman Cathollic Church, although it does possess the Vatican buildings, the power, the hierarchy, AND the bank accounts at this time. The people should toss out these invalid popes rather than conduct unverifiable “canonizations.”
Now if only the Novus Ordo could get it. The “lieutenants” (bishop) know these are not canonizations, but the foot-soldiers in the pews, —ahhhhh—…. Ain’t brainwashing wunnerful?
False Catholicism is a laughing stock. No one dared laugh at Pope Pius X, XI, XII. No one. But what do these neophytes know of doctrine? They know impressionism, illuminism and hysterics. They don’t know how “good” Bugnini, et al, are at this stuff.
Traditional Catholics at traditionalmass.org/
Nothing.
Her diagnosis was confirmed by independent doctors, not associated with the Vatican. As with all miracles, there is criteria that must be met. In medical miracles it is necessary for someone to be healed, stay healed and have no other explanation for why they were healed. It has to be confirmed that there is no medical explanation for the healing.
The Vatican has no need or desire to “make up” stuff. There have been many miracles done by God for our benefit over the centuries…no need to fabricate them.
Interesting that so many who find it rubbish, have no clue about the process. They jump to the assumption that the Vatican just makes a claim and we all believe it. Yet they are the one believing something unproved of which they have no data or research to back up. Kind of ironic.
Bit a euro. I doubt very much if the youngish french nun at the center of the John Paul II canonization controversy was either pretending or paid. There would be no need to do so.
It is quite possible that she was misdiagnosed in the first place. While most PD differential diagnoses are not curable, nor are most essential tremor differential diagnoses, there are conditions which could easily be confused with Parkinson’s disease and are not only treatable but curable.
It is also important to understand that there are no lab tests for PD. All diagnoses are made from medical history, family history, observation and some in-office physical testing. Observation and in-office testing is done against the UPDRS or the revised version.
GAD or generalized anxiety disorder is one such condition which can mimic several PD symptoms. It would indeed be possible for one to be “cured” of this condition and its symptoms through the process of aging and the calming effect of prayer.
Sister Marie Simon-Pierre’s symptoms included tremor, micrographia, loss of arm swing, difficulty walking. She identified strongly with Pope John Paul II
http://www.clevelandclinicmeded.com/medicalpubs/diseasemanagement/neurology/tremors/
Therefore in a religious sense, John Paul II might indeed have been instrumental in the cure of this nun through her devout faith, her faith in his role in the church and in the church itself. The power of positive thinking should not be ignored. Whether you think it is a miracle or simply mind over corporeal matter makes little difference if a person recovers.
The canonization process is one which is neither instant nor done without certain types of research. Whether or not you and I believe that way, it is still a process which is respected and needed within the church and its members. “To qualify as a miracle, Sister Marie Simon-Pierre’s recovery required an intense evaluation, including psychiatric and multiple neurological screenings.”
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/14/sister-marie-simon-pierre-5-facts-about-pope-john-paul-iis-mi/
What I do consider strange is that there is little discussion in the death of John Paul II who seems to have died because of a reaction to a homeopathic-type treatment for PD.
They paid the nun nothing. This is not like doing business with a snake oil salesman. John Paul was a well loved holy man who did more for the world than those who criticize him